Tragically, when it comes to the Star of David, there seems to be far too many Jew-hating, race-baiting, clearly exclusionary voices which almost always seem to come from the Protestant Christian Community. In the end it is quite sad that these clearly hostile, and possibly violent, lunatics literally drown out any and all of the more reasonable voices with their so-called independent Bible ‘research’ which purports to ‘prove’ the inherently evil origins of Jews, Judaism, and of course the Star of David. In order to fight back against these Protestant ‘Christian’ hate-mongers, a three-part comparison between SENSE and NONSENSE as it relates to the Star of David can be reads as follows:
It is not a Jewish symbol, but an occult symbol.
– The “Star of David” is Pagan, Jesus-is-Savior.com
SENSE: The Star of David is a widely recognized symbol of Judaism, named after King David of ancient Israel. (Star of David, New World Encyclopedia)
NONSENSE: It is not a Jewish symbol, but an occult symbol. (The “Star of David” is Pagan, Jesus-is-Savior.com)
EVEN MORE SENSE: Most people today associate the six pointed star (hexagram) with the Jewish Star of David (Magen David), as it is the modern symbol of Jewish identity and Judaism. In 1948 it was even adopted on the official flag of Israel. According to Wikipedia: “Its use as a symbol of the Jewish community dates to the 17th century.” (The Six-Pointed Star of Armenia, WordPress.com)
JUDAS MACCABAEUS: The Star of David is either a Jewish symbol or an Occult symbol. It cannot be both, because the Occult has been opposed to Judaism and also the Jewish people, for literally thousands of years. The claim that it is not a Jewish symbol when Jews around the world say that it is appears to a serious denial of reality.
The “Star of David” is Pagan.
SENSE: The Star of David and the five-pointed star are both symbols associated with Christianity. (Christian Star, Christian Symbols, About.com)
NONSENSE: The “Star of David” is Pagan. (Jesus-is-Savior.com)
A LOT MORE SENSE: While predominately recognized as a symbol of Judaism and Israel, many Christians identify with the Star of David as well. (Christian Star, Christian Symbols, About.com)
JUDAS MACCABAEUS: The Star of David is either a Pagan or Christian symbol. It cannot be both, because Christianity is not a Pagan religion and to say an age-old Christian symbol like the Star of David is Pagan is to basically say that Christianity is Pagan, a contradiction in terms which makes no sense whatsoever.
Star of David OR Star of Lucifer?
– Great Joy in Great Tribulation, MoreSureWord.com
SENSE: Lucifer is a Latin word which signifies the ‘morning star’. (Morning Star – Philologos, Philologos.org)
NONSENSE: Star of David OR Star of Lucifer? (Great Joy in Great Tribulation, MoreSureWord.com)
SOME MORE SENSE: The Star of David is a six-pointed star formed by two interlocking triangles, one pointing up, one pointing down….In the book of Revelation, Jesus is called the Morning Star – Revelation 2:28, Revelation 22:16. (Christian Star, About.com)
A FINAL SENSE: The name Lucifer originally denotes the planet Venus, emphasizing its brilliance…Metaphorically, the word is applied…finally to Jesus Christ Himself (II Peter 1:19; Apocalypse 22:16, “Exultet” of Holy Saturday) the true light of our spiritual life. (Lucifer, by Anthony John Maas. Catholic Encyclopedia 1913)
JUDAS MACCABAEUS: First of all, to even suggest that the Star of David may be the Star of Lucifer is to blindly assume that the Devil, the enemy of King David, Israel, the Jews and Judaism is in fact called ‘Lucifer’. Considering the known fact that Lucifer is simply Morning Star in the Latin language, then it may well be more appropriate to think of Jesus Christ as Lucifer, who is indeed a direct descendant of the Royal House of David symbolized by the Six-Pointed ‘Morning’ Star of David..
REALITY: The Star of David is NOT a symbol of the Occult. It was and is an official symbol of Judaism.
REALITY: The Star of David is NOT a Pagan symbol. It is a Christian symbol.
REALITY: The Star of David is NOT the Star of Lucifer. It is the family Coat-of-Arms of Rabbi Jesus, a genuine symbol of Jesus Christ the bright, Morning Star.
God bless reality and may God bless you all.
- The Star of David Symbolism in the Book of Genesis (stjudasmaccabaeus.wordpress.com)
- Star of David = Jesus Christ = Morning Star = Star of David (thunderofgod.wordpress.com)
- The One Dollar Star of David (thunderofgod.wordpress.com)
Patiently Answering a Misled and Confused Protestant Christian’s Accusations with Logic and Historical Facts
– Kevin Lucier, a MISLED AND CONFUSED Protestant writer and publisher at Glorybound.net
Adam Weishaupt, a Catholic Jesuit priest [created] the Illuminati in 1776 as a front group for the Jesuits, and in reorganizing the Freemasons. They used the Jewish Talmud, a book of Jewish traditions and antichrist principles, to gain control.
– Kevin Lucier, a MISLED AND CONFUSED Protestant writer and publisher at Glorybound.net
What follows below is an exchange of writings between myself, Judas Maccabaeus (Jason Nicholas Corning, a Catholic from Wenatchee, WA) and Kevin Lucier, a certain Protestant Christian writer and owner of an outrageously hateful website called Glorybound.net. For the purposes of simplicity, Mr. Kevin Lucier’s online writings are designated by the words ‘MISLED AND CONFUSED’ while the written response of Judas Maccabaeus is termed ‘A CONCERNED CATHOLIC BELIEVER’. Here are two essential portions of this ongoing exchange:
THE MISLED AND CONFUSED: The Roman Catholic Mass is a Satanic mockery of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for the sins of the world!
A CONCERNED CATHOLIC BELIEVER: The Roman Catholic Mass is literally based upon the practices and rituals of the Temple of Jerusalem during the time of Jesus as well as long before. The chants, recitations, and songs found in the first part of the Catholic Mass (called the Liturgy of the Word) are extremely similar if not sometimes identical to the daily religious practices of the Jews at the Temple of Jerusalem. The bread and wine offerings of the Temple are now what Catholics call the Liturgy of the Eucharist. Also, the bread and wine of Communion symbolize the body and blood of the daily lamb sacrifice at the Temple of Jerusalem- a Hebrew practice which dates back as far in history as Abel, the son of Adam and Eve (~ 3770 BC)
THE MISLED AND CONFUSED: Adam Weishaupt, a Catholic Jesuit priest [created] the Illuminati in 1776 as a front group for the Jesuits, and in reorganizing the Freemasons. They used the Jewish Talmud, a book of Jewish traditions and antichrist principles, to gain control.
A CONCERNED CATHOLIC BELIEVER: It is a historical fact that Adam Weishaupt was never ordained as a Catholic Priest, let alone a Jesuit Priest. Founded in 1776, Adam Weishaupt’s organization achieved a short lifespan of popular support but was basically extinct by the end of the year 1785, or as Trevor W. McKeown notes ‘In March and August 1785…the Order (Illuminati) began to decline, so that by the end of the eighteenth century it had ceased to exist.’ (A Bavarian Illuminati primer, by Trevor W. McKeown). There is absolutely no historical evidence that the Illuminati, or its Founder Adam Weishaupt, knew anything at all about the Jewish Talmud and none of their writings ever mention this ancient Jewish religious text.
Relevant Quotes and References
LINK TO THE MENTALLY ILL–> http://www.glorybound.net/endoftime.php
CATHOLIC MASS: The Catholic sacrifice of the Mass is taken from the Jewish rituals and has slight influences brought in from Roman and other Middle Eastern civilizations. However, the Mass is modeled on the Jewish synagogue meetings and the temple sacrifices, hence its division from a strictly didactic format (the first half of Mass) to a form of ritual worship and sacrifice (the latter half).
– Are Catholics Pagans? Religion & Spirituality > Christianity > Catholicism, Answers.com
THE ILLUMINATI: The Order [of the Illuminati] was at first very popular, and enrolled no less than two thousand names upon its registers…. Its Lodges were to be found in France, Belgium, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Poland, Hungary, and Italy. Knigge Baron Adolph Knigge (1752 – 1796), who was one of its most prominent working members, and the auther of several of its Degrees, was a religious man, and would never have united with it had its object been, as has been charged, to abolish Christianity. But it cannot be denied, that in the process of time abuses had crept into the Institution and that by the influence of unworthy men, the system became corrupted; yet the course accusations of Barruel and Robison are known to be exaggerated, and some of them altogether false…. The Edicts [on June 22, 1784, for its suppression] of the Elector of Bavaria [Duke Karl Theodor] were repeated in March and August, 1785 and the Order began to decline, so that by the end of the eighteenth century it had ceased to exist.
– A Bavarian Illuminati primer, by Trevor W. McKeown
The Good News Talmud, Part II.
TALMUD: Two sheep and two tenth parts of flour were demanded as an offering, whereas of wine only the smallest possible quantity was to be offered. This was a hint that wine is always to be used sparingly, as indulgence in it leads to mischief. (Talmud, Tanchum. Sheminee)
GOSPEL: While they were eating, Jesus took some bread, and after a blessing, He broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, ‘Take, eat, this is My body.‘ And when He had taken a cup of wine and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.’ (Matthew 26:26-29)
TALMUD: Have no undue compassion for tyrants, and you will not become a tyrant over those who deserve compassion. (Tanchum. Metzora)
GOSPEL: ‘Show Me the coin used for the poll-tax.’…And He said to them, ‘Whose likeness and inscription is this?’ They said to Him, ‘Caesar‘s.’ Then He said to them, ‘Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar‘s; and to God the things that are God’s.’ And hearing this, they were amazed, and leaving Him, they went away. (Matthew 22:19-22, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25)
TALMUD: (Jerusalem in) Palestine is destined to be the centre of the globe. (Tanchum. Kedoshim)
GOSPEL: Nevertheless I must journey on…for it cannot be that a prophet would perish outside of Jerusalem. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, just as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not have it! Behold…you will not see Me until the time comes when you say, ‘BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD!’ (Luke 13:33-35)
TALMUD: God blessed Adam, Noah and Abraham, but He endowed Abraham with the power of blessing which the Lord will endorse. (Talmud, Tanchum. Nosou)
GOSPEL #1: Some men were carrying on a bed a man who was paralyzed; and they were trying to bring him in and to set him down in front of Him. But not finding any way to bring him in because of the crowd, they went up on (T)the roof and let him down…with his stretcher…in front of Jesus. Seeing their faith, He said, “Friend, your sins are forgiven you.’ The scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, ‘Who is this man who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?‘ But Jesus, aware of their reasonings, answered and said to them, “Why are you reasoning in your hearts? Which is easier to say, ‘Your sins have been forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk?’ (Just) so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” He said to the paralyzed man, ‘I say to you, get up, and pick up your stretcher and go home.’ Immediately he got up before them, and picked up what he had been lying on, and went home glorifying God. They were all struck with astonishment…saying, ‘We have seen remarkable things today.’ (Luke 5:18-26)
GOSPEL #2: For you will go on BEFORE THE LORD TO PREPARE HIS WAYS, To give to His people the knowledge of salvation by the forgiveness of their sins, because of the tender mercy of our God with which the Sunrise from on high will visit us. (Luke 1:76-78)
TALMUD: God consulted the Torah when about to create man, but the Torah was dubious about calling man into existence, for since his days would be so short and his ways so perverted he would require much forbearance. God’s reply was, ‘By thee (Torah) I declare myself as a God merciful, long-suffering, and abundant in goodness and in truth.’ (Talmud, Tanchum. Pekudai)
GOSPEL: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. (John 1:1-5)
TALMUD: This much one should know, the phrase…’the world to come’ does not imply that it is a world yet to be called into existence; it exists already, but the phrase is employed to describe the life into which those who are in the present stage of existence will be transposed when they throw off this mortal coil. (Tanchum. Vayikra)
GOSPEL: Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God. (Luke 9:27, Matthew 16:28, Mark 9:1)
TALMUD: The leper, the blind, the abject poor, and those who have no progeny, are as though dead . (Talmud, Tanchum. Tsav)
GOSPEL: Now as He approached the gate of the city, a dead man was being carried out, the only son of his mother, and she was a widow…When the LORD saw her, He felt compassion for her, and said to her, ‘Do not weep.’ And He came up and touched the coffin; and the bearers came to a halt. And He said, ‘Young man, I say to you, arise!’ The dead man sat up and began to speak. And Jesus gave him back to his mother. Fear gripped them all, and they began glorifying God. (Luke 7:12-16)
TALMUD: The leper, the blind, the abject poor, and those who have no progeny,are as though dead . (Talmud, Tanchum. Tsav)
GOSPEL: ‘Your daughter is dead,” they said. “Why bother the teacher anymore?” Overhearing what they said, Jesus told him, ‘Don’t be afraid; just believe’…When they came to the home of the synagogue leader, Jesus saw a commotion, with people crying and wailing loudly. He went in and said to them, ‘Why all this commotion and wailing? The child is not dead but asleep.’ 40 But they laughed at him. After he put them all out, he took the child’s father and mother…and went in where the child was. 41 He took her by the hand and said to her, “Talitha koum!’… Immediately the girl stood up and began to walk around (she was twelve years old). At this they were completely astonished. (Mark 5:35-42)
TALMUD: The leper, the blind, the abject poor, and those who have no progeny, are as though dead. (Talmud, Tanchum. Tsav)
GOSPEL: Jesus said to him, ‘Follow Me, and allow the dead to bury their own dead.’ (Matthew 8:22)
- TALMUD: In order not to cause jealousy as to who should be the seventy elders, Moses cast lots by taking seventy-two slips representing six of each tribe, writing the word ‘elder’ on seventy of the slips and leaving the two odd ones blank. Seventy-two men then drew out each of them a slip, and those who drew blanks had to give up their claims (Tanchum. Behaaloscha)
- GOSPEL #1: After this the Lord appointed seventy-two others and sent them two by two ahead of him to every town and place where he was about to go…The seventy-two returned with joy and said, “Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name.’ (Luke 10:1,17) in New International Version, Douay-Rheims 1899 American Version
GOSPEL #2: Now after this the Lord appointed seventy others, and sent them in pairs ahead of Him to every city and place where He Himself was going to come…The seventy returned with joy, saying, ‘Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.’ (Luke 10:1,17) in New American Standard, New King James or 21st Century King James Version
TALMUD The harp upon which the Levites played had seven strings. (Talmud, Tanchum. Behaaloscha)
GOSPEL: And Jesus called His disciples to Him, and said, ‘I feel compassion for the people…and I do not want to send them away hungry, for they might faint on the way.’ The disciples said to Him, ‘Where would we get so many loaves in this desolate place to satisfy such a large crowd?’ And Jesus said to them, ‘How many loaves do you have?’ And they said, ‘Seven, and a few small fish.’ And He directed the people to sit down on the ground and He took the seven loaves and the fish; and giving thanks, He broke them and started giving them to the disciples, and the disciples gave them to the people. And they all ate and were satisfied, and they picked up what was left over of the broken pieces, seven large baskets full. And those who ate were four thousand men, besides women and children. (Matthew 15:32-37)